fresh rebuild dont kno what cc im at anymore

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chevyguy09

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Ok I just rebuilt my warrior 350 it's bored to .60 over with a namura piston n rings I have rebuilt the head also with new valves,seals,guides,stiffer springs,and rockers, the bottom end I replaced stock crank with a versha +2mm crank n rod...I have jetted using 150 jet kit from dynojet I also have a 100db czr pipe this quad really runs great now it will ride side byside with my brothers Polaris 400 sport..ok so here is where I need help figureing out how many cc I have from other blogs and posts I've seen on interweb I should be at a 366 with my bore etc but shouldn't I be at more then 366 cc since I am running a plus 2mm crank rod? Think stock stroke is 64.5 I should be at 66.5 now idk all that math bs just losses me. Lol anyone figure this out for me?
 
Well it is a + 2mm crank by versha I even ran the number stamped on side of rod beside brand stamped on rod into Google search back when I ordered it and it confirmed it is +2mm I would give u the number but have since forgot where I wrote them down at and not rating motor apart just to get them again
 
:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
I'm done here.
I'm pretty good at finding **** on the Internet and this ain't true.
 
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No the numbers stamped on rod came up as +2mm versha rod I'm not on here to argue with kno it alls just on here asking what ccs I'm at with my engine set up as I stated
 
Okay here's my issue. With a longer rod the stroke isn't any diffrent and there isn't any more cc's added. It would just add more compression. unless you can come up with some numbers on the crank, Case closed. its a 366. I feel like being a dick... Usually I like to help. Just the day I'm having.
 
Well, I have never ever heard of a +2 crank. There is the +4 Hotrods that I am running. But, you gain 5.5cc per millimeter of stroke. SO, if it is a +2 then you gained 11cc right there. A 0.060" piston does not equal 366. An 0.080" make a 366. It's 9cc per millimeter of bore size. SO, 0.060" is a 13.5cc gain. Making a total gain of 24.5cc, which = 372.5cc of total displacement.

I'm not convinced that there is a +2 Vesrah crank for these two reason's. One, never heard or seen a +2 crank. Two, never known Vesrah to even make a crank for a Warrior. Maybe they did way back when, who knows, it's anyone's guess. Also, you would have some deck height issues to correct.
 
Well Alex since u seem to kno it all and are now saying that longer rods don't add cc so now what you have to say about gen1pats post then since ur in a mood to be a dick so you say
 
The stroke of the crank is what adds displacement to an engine. Meaning; the distance from the center of the crank shaft to the center of the lower rod pin. That is the stroke, not the length of the rod. Now, the length of the rod does have an effect on the way an engine produces power. But, it does not increase displacement.
 
Okay, **** it.
If its a 2mm LONGER ******* ROD NO STOKE IS GAINED.
therefore NO CCs ARE GAINED. NO CCs ARE GAINED UNLESS THE CRANKSHAFT IS MODDED. longer RODs don't ad STROKE.
Thank you and have a good ******* day.
DICK
 
Lmao gen1pat my bad so Ya I'm not a 366 but I am a 362 so u was saying before if my crank is a +2 mm like I said it is that +2 mm makes 11 ccs and my piston is a .060 which is 84.5 and jug is bored at think shop said he did it at 84.65 what's total cc I'm running at then? And my vesrah +2 was a old back stock item
 
Longer rods allow the piston to stand still at tdc and it also creates a better rod/piston angle which decreases stress on the thrust side of The cylinder making it a happier revving engine..

Cut down on the bickering guys, I don't want to lock this down.
 
I don't think you understand vesrah has NEVER made a crank. They make connecting rods and other various products for off road vehicles. So yet again your theory is crushed.
If the connecting rod is a +2 mm rod it would have Clearance issues with the head (deck height issues) but anyway. It's not going to add any CCs to your engine, unless the OEM or equivalent crackshaft was modified.
 
There is a formula to find out an engine's exact displacement. You can look it up (you need to either convert your numbers from metric to SAE or look up the metric formula. The SAE formula is as follows:

(pie)times(bore to the 2nd power) times(stroke)times(number of cylinders)divided by (4)

The Warrior, and it's engine has been around since 1987. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a +2 crank long ago. ALBA racing used to have a 400cc kit years back.
 
Sry '00 but this alex is one that's pushing the buttons and won't let it rest I am done with this conversation I kno what I have ppl I even took the damn thing to shop to confirm it was a good rod and crank when I got it they even ran the dang numbers on rod and guy at shop even didn't believe it at first said he hasn't seen one and his boss came over and said yes he has but been long time thanks for what ever this all was
 
alex456123 said:
I don't think you understand vesrah has NEVER made a crank. They make connecting rods and other various products for off road vehicles. So yet again your theory is crushed.
If the connecting rod is a +2 mm rod it would have Clearance issues with the head (deck height issues) but anyway. It's not going to add any CCs to your engine, unless the OEM or equivalent crackshaft was modified.
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Alex, knock it the hell off! You have already been warned by a mod, and now I've just had it. How do you KNOW Vesrah never made a crank for the Warrior???? Did you work for them? Do you know how many companies and aftermarket suppliers used to (A) be in the business, and, (B) used to make parts for quads!?!?! Vesrah has been around for about as long as quads. They make all kinds of engine and clutch parts for MANY models. What's to say they didn't make a crank some fifteen or more years ago when the Warrior was still considered a "performance" quad?

Case in point, my ATC350X has only 3 piston sizes available for it. Stock 81mm, 81.5, and 82mm. In either 10.5 or 12:1. And, only from wiseco. Just three days ago, I stumbled across a NOS 83 MILLIMETER 11:1 White Bros piston made by Arais on ebay!!!! I have never seen one before and probably never will from now on. But, that piston may have been a HUGE aftermarket item waaaaayyyy back in the late 80s and very early 90s.

So, before you EVER open your fat mouth, stop and think about this **** from now on. There are things that you will never know, and things that you get educated on EVERY SINGLE DAY. All you have succeed in doing it making a true ass of yourself, and are loosing respect with ever post you just made in this thread. The OP has not been a schmuck at all this entire time, he has only defended himself against a child's temper. He came here looking for advice, and was not a dick about it, and has shown that he does not think of himself as a know it all. Thus far anyway. Think before you talk tatertot.
 
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