Polaris Outlaw

[mattd]

I was lookin at a polaris outlaw today and i thought they were pretty cool. I think the independent rear suspension (IRS) would be cool to have on a sport quad, The added ground clearence would be great for trails. What do you guys think about this quad and the IRS?

 

[warriorxcr1]

if you ride rocks yes!!

if you dont then stick with straight axles.... theres way too much pull coming out of corners with the irs. very cool quad but you wont be able to ride it as hard

 

[mattd]

I do ride a lot of rocks and i love sport quads thats why i was lookin at one instead of a utility. I dont think im gonna upgrade for a while though i just got my warrior like a year and a half ago. I just wanted to see what other people think of this quad.

 

[warriorspeed350]

F*** driveshafts and "IRS"

axles for life!!!!

 

[mattd]

Hey warriorspeed the outlaw is a chain drive. Know what your talking about before you say somthing next time.

 

[yamarider]

I have to say that there are 3 things that turn me off with IRS on a sport quad. First, you have twice as many a-arm bushings to grease, and replace when worn out. On utility quads it's not as bad because they're genarally not beat around as much, but as much as a sport quad can take a beating those bushings probably wouldn't last too long. The 2nd thing is widening the quad, you also have 2 sets of a-arms to replace to widen it, which I guess isn't that big of a deal because axles aren't too cheap either, but you also would have to get longer shafts to get the power to the rear wheels. If you haven't seen the prices on the CV shafts for quads lately, check it out, prices for even a stock replacement are insane. The 3rd reason - with a shaft drive you can't readily change your gearing ratio like you can with a chain drive, where you just swap sprockets. The only way with shaft drive would be to change the rear gears similar to changing the gearing on a car, which is not only inconvenient, but also expensive if an aftermarket company would even come out with different rear gears. I'll stick to my straight axle and chain drive, more tunability and less stuff to go wrong.

 

[imtarnished]

Also depending on your riding conditions whether trails, loamy stuff, sand, if the front end comes up the quad will track to which ever side has more weight on the rear (this is also a major factor under hard acceleration circumstances). The amount of body roll due to the IRS would make it much slower out of turns, and also feel a little more tippy until you got used to it. To get the rear end to swing out on an IRS machine to help in the turns you have to turn to the outside of the turn from the middle of the lane, then crank it back into the turn so the IRS won't soak it up and have massive body roll. But the IRS is much better in rocks, and rutted out trails with just over 9'' of clearance.
It seems like a good idea if your riding conditions aren't the best around. But personally I'll stick with my solid axle.

I'd rather wait a few years and see what happens with the raptor 700's efi system, seeing as how that and the outlaw 500 are both $7k. If i had to choose between the 2 I'd rather buy the raptor 700, and deal with the efi quirks/programmer, over the outlaws 4x a-arms, and cv's.
~Bill

 

[rap]

irs is cool but not the way i ride thats lilke me buyin a utility quad and fucfin a fat girl also no more roost

 

[dswwarrior350]

ahhhhh its a polaris... enough said

 

[kreed5821]

I've heard good things from someone that has one so I'll save my judgement until I actually have a chance to ride one.

 

[DeathShadow]

ahhhhh its a polaris... enough said

Exactly - you can get fired for saying "that" word around my shop. :-X

 

[mattd]

Yamarider the outlaw is chaindrive so you can change gear ratios just like you can on any other sport quad. As far as it having a lot of lean in corners from different reviews i reaad its not that bad and they sell anti-roll bars that would solve that problem.

 

[quadz4life88]

i think the polaris outlaw is awsome. looks wise and the whole irs system. i'd love to really get a full day of hard riding on one just to see how it works. i'd love to upgrade to a new quad like that but i just can't the the warrior go. it by far the best quad i have ever had. my quad is 10 yrs old and still running strong as ever. plus without a job i'm a little short on green.

 

[boxhead]

I've heard the same about the rear end on them actually being very easy to break loose on the corners. I wouldn't trust a polaris anyway though, perhaps if yamaha made one... ;D

 

[kreed5821]

That'd be sweeeet! Some folks swear by Polaris though. Guess it depends on your own experiences. Me, I'll stick with yammies!

 

[atv]

I have to say that there are 3 things that turn me off with IRS on a sport quad. First, you have twice as many a-arm bushings to grease, and replace when worn out. On utility quads it's not as bad because they're genarally not beat around as much, but as much as a sport quad can take a beating those bushings probably wouldn't last too long. The 2nd thing is widening the quad, you also have 2 sets of a-arms to replace to widen it, which I guess isn't that big of a deal because axles aren't too cheap either, but you also would have to get longer shafts to get the power to the rear wheels. If you haven't seen the prices on the CV shafts for quads lately, check it out, prices for even a stock replacement are insane. The 3rd reason - with a shaft drive you can't readily change your gearing ratio like you can with a chain drive, where you just swap sprockets. The only way with shaft drive would be to change the rear gears similar to changing the gearing on a car, which is not only inconvenient, but also expensive if an aftermarket company would even come out with different rear gears. I'll stick to my straight axle and chain drive, more tunability and less stuff to go wrong.

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=862567977&n=2&Mytoken=140EF3E8-C798-1173-3FC2143D4F1594532291518

I couldnt beleave this look how easy this is to wheelie an outlaw... after watching that movie im pretty impressed with the outlaw and im not a big fan of polaris eitehr...

 

[DeathShadow]

I think that thing looks douchey as hell to be honest with you.

 

[atv]

lol yea thats true but if yamaha put a IRS on a Limeted edition RAPTOR700 like to have as an extra i would buy it... lol i just need it because i go threw some DEEP LONG ruts...

 

[dswwarrior350]

[quote:elh0ylmk]I have to say that there are 3 things that turn me off with IRS on a sport quad. First, you have twice as many a-arm bushings to grease, and replace when worn out. On utility quads it's not as bad because they're genarally not beat around as much, but as much as a sport quad can take a beating those bushings probably wouldn't last too long. The 2nd thing is widening the quad, you also have 2 sets of a-arms to replace to widen it, which I guess isn't that big of a deal because axles aren't too cheap either, but you also would have to get longer shafts to get the power to the rear wheels. If you haven't seen the prices on the CV shafts for quads lately, check it out, prices for even a stock replacement are insane. The 3rd reason - with a shaft drive you can't readily change your gearing ratio like you can with a chain drive, where you just swap sprockets. The only way with shaft drive would be to change the rear gears similar to changing the gearing on a car, which is not only inconvenient, but also expensive if an aftermarket company would even come out with different rear gears. I'll stick to my straight axle and chain drive, more tunability and less stuff to go wrong.

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=862567977&n=2&Mytoken=140EF3E8-C798-1173-3FC2143D4F1594532291518

I couldnt beleave this look how easy this is to wheelie an outlaw... after watching that movie im pretty impressed with the outlaw and im not a big fan of polaris eitehr...[/quote:elh0ylmk]



Ive said this before and ill say it again....


Since when does a machines ability to wheelie tell you anything about the power it has. I could do a wheelie on a raptor 50... does that mean it has power... no. Its all a balancing act, if anything you want the front to stay down in any kind of real world riding situation, you cant turn with your front wheels in the air.

 

[corko1492]

ahhhhh its a polaris... enough said

agreed