flipping wheels

[missouritrailrider]

what method has worked for you guys on flipping front wheels as far as changing out valve stem, ect?

 

[yamarider]

When I had my wheels flipped I had the original valve stems put in backwards so they wouldn't stick out, and then re-drilled a hole on the other side of the wheel with a new stem. This works good because it doesn't make it a pain in the *** to put air in your tires.

 

[missouritrailrider]

was it hard to do? this sounds like a good idea.... are stock warrior wheels aluminum?

 

[yamarider]

I didn't do it myself because you have to break the bead in order to do it. With the right tools it wouldn't be hard to do.

Yeah, stock wheels are aluminum, with a steel reinforcement ring around the outer edge.

 

[yamarider]

I broke tie rod ends like nobody's business when my wheels were flipped though. You'll want to get some heavy duty tie rods and ends if you do this.

 

[missouritrailrider]

well wouldn't i break them even with wider offset douglas wheels? any ideas on good places for HD ends?

 

[yamarider]

Regular offset wheels aren't as far offset as you'd be with the stock wheels flipped, but yes any additional offset is going to add more leverage and make it easier to break an end.

I got my tie rod kit off ebay for $100 and it uses 12mm ends instead of the stock 10mm. Doesn't sound like a big difference, but it is.

 

[missouritrailrider]

did you ever break any of those?

 

[yamarider]

No, I didn't have them when my wheels were flipped though, I had the stock ones for a while and switched to some ****** tusk honda-style rods and ends for a while. The tusk kit didn't break, but the boots on them were cheap chinese rubber that cracked right away, so there was noticable wear by the end of the first ride. I can say pretty confidently that if you break one of the 12mm kits, you probably hit something hard enough to cause other damage as well.

 

[missouritrailrider]

y athats the thing, i would rather break a tie rod end than a steering stem or spindle lol

 

[yamarider]

That's not what I meant. I mean that if you hit something hard enough to break a heavy duty end you have bigger problems to worry about. The stronger ends aren't going to cause any damage.

 

[missouritrailrider]

i think ill just get some douglas .160's I just want it like an inch wider, plus I believe I am buying some works for stock a-arms so I don't want to make them be too soft

 

[jasonp]

If you riding in the sand .160's are ok. I wouldn't drive any fourwheeler under .190's as even these bend very easy in compared to the stock rims.

 

[missouritrailrider]

ok I should go with .190's, I just want to lighten up front end, I ride my scrambler, which wheelies all day long, then my warrior and I have to work it to wheelie good

 

[jasonp]

ok I should go with .190's, I just want to lighten up front end, I ride my scrambler, which wheelies all day long, then my warrior and I have to work it to wheelie good

yup the warrior has a truck load of front end weight. I would even recomend the rolled lip for rims. 3 of my aftermarket ITP .190's are bent. Yes I do ride hard but still it shouldn't be enough to bend them. Wish I would have kept the stock rims and just went with different tires.

 

[yamarider]

[quote:mqmgr5rs]ok I should go with .190's, I just want to lighten up front end, I ride my scrambler, which wheelies all day long, then my warrior and I have to work it to wheelie good

yup the warrior has a truck load of front end weight. I would even recomend the rolled lip for rims. 3 of my aftermarket ITP .190's are bent. Yes I do ride hard but still it shouldn't be enough to bend them. Wish I would have kept the stock rims and just went with different tires. [/quote:mqmgr5rs]

You really had trouble with the .190's bending? My ITP .190's are holding up good so far. My stock ones were twisted up pretty good though.

might have had something to do with my 3rd gear pinned "hill climb to nosedive to ditch transfer" stunt though.

I know if I ever replace my rear wheels it'll be something real heavy duty though, my rear ones really take a pounding with all the rocks around here, and my tendency to slide around every corner. I can't count how many time's i've came around a corner with the throttle pinned sliding sideways and a rock firmly planted in the ground came in contact with the rear wheels. The whole edge of both my rear wheels looks like somebody just tied the wheel to the bumper of a truck and started dragging it around a field of rocks for a couple hours. They're still straight for the most part though.

 

[dave76]

I bent a set of front ITP .190s, have no clue how, but I noticed they were bent.

 

[jasonp]

It could be that I don't run enough air pressure which was about 1.5 psi or so. Rides so much nicer this way. I landed some huge jump on the rear end and folded a right rear rim almost in half, bent the axle. It was cool. I had to ride about 100 miles like that.

 

[yamarider]

nice

I never run low tire pressure, that could very well have something to do with it. I usually run 5 psi in both the front and rears. If I didn't i'd be replacing at least one tire and wheel every time I rode. Too many rocks here in PA

 

[missouritrailrider]

well i run my front at whatever they say on tire, rears I change depending on conditions, would .160's be ok on front? I currently have .190's on rear