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So I am think about re-ringing my warrior and replace the base and head gasket cause there leaking and im losing compression and also want the experience of rebuilding a top end..


my question though is can i just buy a new piston and ring if the cylinder walls are good and there are no scratches or nicks or does the actual wall wear out?


meaning does the wall get bigger and would i have to go up a size piston or does it not wear like that?
 
Cylinder walls actually wear as well. Nikasial cylinders (which the warrior does not have) will wear at a much less rate... but once again this is not the case with the warrior.

This is a tough call because bad gaskets will not make it easy to measure how bad the piston/ring/cylinder wear is based on compression. A leak down test is ideal to test this, but still bad gaskets could foil it.
Looking at a cylinder and the walls is not always a telltale measure of how healthy the cylinder is. No scratches is a good thing, but you have to see if there is still good crosshatching or not. If it is glazed (smooth and shiny with no fine roughness) then the cylinder is worn and will need a hone at minimum.
If you are doing this to learn, then you could take the opportunity to mic out the cylinder as well. This is not hard, because you are merely taking measurements to compare how round the cylinder is. This also would tell you if you are requiring a bore and possibly by how much, and or if the cylinder is not good.

There is a lot to learn about checking out and building a top end properly, but it is easy, and this would be one of the best times to do it if you are willing. Many people here are familiar with this and would help answer questions I'm sure.

In the end, if you are considering a re-ring with a new piston, I'd go the next size up with 11:1 compression if you want to run pump fuel and just have it bored to start with fresh cylinder walls.

Short cuts can always be taken, but if you are looking to learn, then do not take them and do it properly... the knowledge you will gain will be worth the extra time and effort.

Sorry if some of this seemed to make no sense... I jumped around and wrote this a few times, maybe I'll edit it if its that bad lol
 
where can i find a micrometer to measure my bore? harbor freight? also what is the actual tool called. i want to do a whole top end rebuild
 
Lol when I was taught it was with the old micrometers and telescoping gauges... But yes a digital caliper will make things easier
 
awesome you guys i think the hardest part of the rebuild for me is gonna be shimming the valves and replacing the springs and all that stuff up there.
 
the valves in these motors dont get shimmed... you just adjust the rockers to adjust the valves, using a feeler gauge to give you the proper setting.

It is the motors with the setup like the yfz that have to be shimmed. The yfz style motors do not have rocker arms and instead need the lifter to be shimmed from the valve for the proper settings.

So in other words... adjusting the valves on the warrior is as simple as using a feeler gauge for clearances and a wrench to adjust.
 
I didnt think it was bad when I did it... but then again i made sure to make it as easy as possible and stripped off the plastics and fuel tank... why not take a little bit more time to make things simpler
 
Before you re ring it and hone it you need to make sure the bore is still round, if its out of round by a tad it will need to be cut, and go up a size in piston. If its still in spec for round then you can hone it, ring it, put it back together break it in and be good to go. But if you are going to through the trouble of tearing down the top end, then do it all, gaskets, valve seals guides, do it all right. You can also go back in with a after market light piston, less weight in rotating mass the faster it build rpm's and more power it makes. Do a google search on re-ringing motors.
 
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