axle (rear) journals

[mrjim0214]

my journals are toast! can i build them up or knurl them and machine them back to speck? or not worth the trouble? options?

 

[MidwayUSA]

Any time you weld on something like that you end up with runout so not an easy thing to do. How bad are they worn? If not overly bad, put some new bearings in there and run it. When you tghten up the outer nuts, they will hold everything tight.

 

[1998yamahawarrior]

Or i got a good stock carrier, with good bearings and a grease zerk installed. Its complete, only reason i took it off was for a LoneStar swinger.

 

[mrjim0214]

well let me put it this way.......sprocket side goes on ...no slop..but definetly not a PRESS fit........rotor side is sloppy.....a couple of thousands at least!

 

[mrjim0214]

I like zerks. but its a sealed bearing. hows that help?

 

[MidwayUSA]

Pop the inner seals out of the bearings before you press them back in the housing. Grease will still find its way past the seals if they are in there. A grease gun exerts quite a lot of pressure. We use to push stuck lifters out of Ford Pinto heads using a grease gun and a modded fitting.

 

[mrjim0214]

i know a grease gun ! im a machine operator. but r we gonna fill whole cavity with grease to be able to create pressure?

 

[MidwayUSA]

With the bearing spacer in there you aren't filling the entire cavity. It still takes a lot of grease. A whole tube of grease is cheaper than limited bearing life.

 

[Gen1Pat]

You can also apply stud and bearing mount to outer race and then install it into the bore. Drill several holes in the axle spacer tube to allow the greese to get in there, too.

 

[1998yamahawarrior]

With the bearing spacer in there you aren't filling the entire cavity. It still takes a lot of grease. A whole tube of grease is cheaper than limited bearing life.

I agree whole heartedly!!!! My old red one had it done before I got it, rode hard and put away wet all the time and the bearings were still good when I sold the roller. I had it for 5+ years and I never had to change the rear bearings, I dont even know how long they were in there before I got it either.

This is also why some one figured out how to make the front hub bearings grease-able.

 

[MidwayUSA]

I agree whole heartedly!!!! My old red one had it done before I got it, rode hard and put away wet all the time and the bearings were still good when I sold the roller. I had it for 5+ years and I never had to change the rear bearings, I dont even know how long they were in there before I got it either.

This is also why some one figured out how to make the front hub bearings grease-able.

Yep, I drilled my front hubs and put 90 degree grease fittings in them to I can grease those bearings as well.

As far as drilling holes in the spacer, I didn't do that, and probably won't. That is a lot of grease. I just make sure to smear the middle section of the axle with grease before I slip it back in place.

 

[1998yamahawarrior]

I still need to do the front hub mod. Now that I have an indoors place to work on it, I can get it done!!

 

[Gen1Pat]

I want to do the front hub zerk but will wait until I have to do bearings again. Might use the pivot works high speed tapered bearings.

 

[mrjim0214]

ok, thanks, im gonna drill n tap in a zerk!!! any suggestions on best location as for no brakage? also not sure what your talking about with stud and bearing mount to outer races?

 

[Gen1Pat]

Loctite makes it. Haven't had to use it in quite some time. My dad used to use a lot back 30 years ago. He can't remember the primary ingrediant. It's kinda like epoxy for bearing races. If your inner race doesn't press fit in the bore well and spins in the bore, put that **** on it and it'll bond it to the metal. Best part is it doesn't keep the bearing or race from being removed down the road.

 

[1998yamahawarrior]

ok, thanks, im gonna drill n tap in a zerk!!! any suggestions on best location as for no brakage? also not sure what your talking about with stud and bearing mount to outer races?

On the top of the carrier, it will keep it out of the way and easily greasable.

 

[mrjim0214]

Loctite makes it. Haven't had to use it in quite some time. My dad used to use a lot back 30 years ago. He can't remember the primary ingrediant. It's kinda like epoxy for bearing races. If your inner race doesn't press fit in the bore well and spins in the bore, put that **** on it and it'll bond it to the metal. Best part is it doesn't keep the bearing or race from being removed down the road.

on top is what i figured 4 placement, thanks. the bore on housing is good, its the axle journal thats loose. i think im gonna zerk it, knurl slightly and loctite it. got nuttin to lose but a set of bearings i guess, axle already f@$#%$:beat:

 

[MidwayUSA]

Keep the axle nuts tight and you may be surprised how long it will last.

 

[mrjim0214]

Keep the axle nuts tight and you may be surprised how long it will last.

Is there a torque on nuts? or is "tight is rite":leer:

 

[MidwayUSA]

Is there a torque on nuts? or is "tight is rite":leer:

I am sure there is a torque, but I just tighten them as tight as I can with a big adjustable wrench and check them once in a while before I ride.